October Quickies—Pearl Tea and Oven Cleaner

Among the hundreds of blog ideas I’ve saved are several topics that I can’t fathom turning into standalone posts.  There’s just not that much to them.  You’d die of boredom reading them if I didn’t pass away first from the boredom of writing them.  But if written about as a quick tip, maybe once a month, that might be ok.  Even interesting.  We shall see.

FOOD

I read somewhere of someone’s aunt making what she termed Pearl Tea during the Depression.  Her recipe of “hot water, a little milk, and a smidge of sugar” didn’t cut it for me. It didn’t sound very appetizing, either, but taste-testing it wouldn’t kill me.  I translated that recipe into a cup of water, a tablespoon of milk, and ½ teaspoon of sugar.  That was too blah.  So I increased the milk and sugar.  Here’s how it ended up:

Pearl Tea

1 cup hot water

2 tablespoons milk

1 ½ teaspoons sugar

 

Stir the milk and sugar into the hot water.

 

Family reviews:  OK, I didn’t test the whole family on this.  It’s a “Quickie” in more ways than one.  With more milk and sugar, it’s not too blah.  It warms a body up and provides a tiny bit of sweetness.  It’s easy to understand why it’s a Depression recipe.  And it’s another way to use powdered milk.  Were I to begin with instant powdered milk, I’d stir in 1 ½ teaspoons.

 

CLEANING

I always—always—want a more natural cleaner that I can make at home.  It saves money and doesn’t level unwanted chemicals in my air or near my food.  Unfortunately, I was raised with all those magical industrial potions that do the hard work so that all I had to do was wipe things up.  Sometimes the DIY solutions aren’t all they claim to be.  Or perhaps I am expecting too much.  Here’s a recipe I found for oven cleaner.

Oven Cleaner

1 ½ cups distilled white vinegar

1 ½ cups hot tap water

½ cup lemon juice

¼ cup Dawn

 

Mix well in a spray bottle.  Spray the oven walls.  Close door and wait 15 minutes.  Wipe up.

 

Review:  This works just fine for messes that haven’t been baked on for months.  Only for recent splatters.  The more time stuff has baked on, the more help you need.  I enlisted a Magic Eraser for scrubbing the glass, and steel wool for getting the industrially baked on grime off.  I will admit that perhaps I should try cleaning the oven more often.  Maybe I will. 

 

And maybe I won’t.  In that off chance (Ok, don’t laugh.  It’s not nice.) I’d rather not have a whole bottle of cleaner cluttering up the cabinet.  I’d rather make just enough for a single cleaning session.  The batch I came up with today is enough to clean my large double ovens twice.  So I scaled that down to half.

 

Single-Use Oven Cleaner

2 ½ tablespoons hot tap water

2 ½ tablespoons distilled white vinegar

1 tablespoon lemon juice

1 ½ teaspoons Dawn dishwashing liquid

 

Mix well in a spray bottle.  Spray the oven walls.  Close door and wait 15 minutes.  Wipe up.

Blessed Are the Peacemakers

 

After attending a writing conference in Utah last month, instead of driving straight home in the dark, I opted to spend the night on QOTPE and Doc’s couch and attend church with them the next morning.  They meet in one of the oldest buildings in our church.  While the organ doesn’t have as many pipes as the one at Temple Square, it’s still pretty impressive.  The architecture is amazing, the stained-glass windows—beautiful.  One of the talks delivered that day, by a young woman about the same age as QOTPE, really got me thinking.  (In my church, we don’t have paid preachers; the congregants are assigned to speak, for better or worse.  And hey, that’s not just me being judgmental.  When one of our apostles acknowledged that in our worldwide conference last April, he got a lot of laughs.[1]) 

Her talk focused on the importance of emulating the Savior’s example and being a peacemaker.  I followed along for a while, but then had some thoughts of my own on the topic. 

Most often when I think of being a peacemaker, it involves resolving a conflict between children over a toy, or with a spouse over how to deal with an issue at home.  Perhaps not engaging someone who’s being rude out in public.  And, of course, never saying anything that would trigger a liberal or anyone who states there’s no need to prepare for difficult times because God or the government will always be there to take care of them. 

This young woman also made the point that being in a noiseless environment doesn’t necessarily bring peace.  Peace comes from within.  And then my thoughts drifted a little further.

I think everyone would agree that the Savior, the Prince of Peace, is the ultimate peacemaker.  And yet, I would argue that He uttered some things that may not have brought peace to His audience at the moment.  They certainly wouldn’t bring peace if we shared them with some of our friends and family members.  What about this passage from Matthew 24, where He foretells the fall of Jerusalem?

1⁶Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

 

Or Luke 22:36

 

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

 

Or the Parable of the Ten Virgins?

 

They don’t sound very peacemaker-ish, do they?

 

I’d contend that being a peacemaker sometimes doesn’t bring peace to others.  The Savior was admonishing the people to prepare for difficult days—so that they could be at peace when life gets sporty.  When people are reminded of the need to prepare for future challenges, some become upset.  Deep down, they know they aren’t ready.  They aren’t at peace, so we’re the ones accused of not being peacemakers. 

 

However, I’d assert that we are the true peacemakers—those who are willing to teach people what they need to know and prepare to care for their families so that they can have peace when the world around them is in chaos. 

As we in the US see that some people may not receive their welfare benefits starting on November 1, we’ll probably also see and hear a lot of debate on the matter.  The results might not be peaceable.  Perhaps we can keep in mind or share the words of Rush Limbaugh—without mentioning his name—because that might not help the situation:

“By government giveaway programs, individuals are often hurt far more than they are helped. The recipients of these programs become dependent on the government and their dignity is destroyed. Is it compassionate to enslave more and more people by making them a part of the government dependency cycle? I think compassion should be measured by how many people no longer need it. Helping people to become self-sufficient is much more compassionate than drugging them with the narcotic of welfare.” – Rush Limbaugh

Maybe the peacemakers are blessed for trying.  But maybe those blessings don’t come until much later.

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[1] https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/04/27uchtdorf?lang=eng  He’s a quite enjoyable speaker—better to watch and listen to than to read, IMO.

Generalized Rashes

Hundreds of reasons for rashes make it difficult for even dermatologists to accurately diagnose without the benefit of a laboratory.  How will we determine whether a rash is cause for concern or how to treat it? 

Generalized Rash with Sudden Onset

This is the most concerning and is either due to an allergic reaction or an infection.  Or it could be that an infection is treated with a medication to which the patient has an allergic reaction that manifests as a rash.

The allergic reaction may be caused by medication (oral, injected, or inhaled) such as antibiotics (penicillin is a common culprit), tranquilizers, pain relievers, or even insulin; foods like nuts and shellfish, or chemical fumes.  The rash may begin within minutes or weeks after exposure.[1]  The typical allergic rash is red with some parts raised and others flat.  It may look like eczema, hives, bull’s eye-like lesions or blisters varying in size. 

Viral rashes usually develop after an illness begins.  The rashes may be specific and characteristic of measles, chickenpox, or smallpox.  Or they may be non-specific and develop following an upper respiratory infection or gastrointestinal symptoms.  Most generalized rashes caused by infections start in the head and neck area and gradually travel down to cover the rest of the body.  The lesions are smooth and no scales form.  If related to an upper respiratory infection, the lymph nodes in the neck may be tender and/or enlarged.  The tongue may be smooth and red.  Red dots may appear on the roof of the mouth.  The rash lasts 5-10 days. [2]

The most important question to consider with a rash is the patient’s condition.  Is he “well” or “unwell”?  Do vital signs and history suggest the possibility of anaphylaxis? [3]   If so, the patient may need treatment with an epi-pen.  Or does the patient have a fever, which is more indicative of an infection?  If there are no other concerning symptoms, such as altered conscious state or irregular vital signs, the rash is usually benign.[4] 

In a “well” patient, if the rash does not have a clear cause, it can be treated with antihistamines, cooling the skin, and avoiding hot or sweaty clothes.[5]  

Localized Red Rashes

Rashes in the armpits or groin or between the toes are often fungal infections, which proliferate in warm, damp environments.  Treat with a topical anti-fungal like clotrimoxazole.[6]

A localized, itchy red rash is often due to allergic dermatitis or eczema.  And antihistamine may relieve the itching.  Apply a steroid cream like hydrocortisone to the rash.  Also, moisturize the skin and keep it slightly oily.  Long hot showers and too much soap are irritating.[7]

Finally, a primary principle of rash management is as follows:

“If it is wet, dry it.  If it is dry, wet it.”

“Wet” a rash with a moisturizing cream that has fats or an emollient base.  Make your own with coconut or olive oil or tallow and beeswax.  The cover, if desired, with an occlusive dressing (or a nitrile glove or plastic wrap).

“Dry” a rash with exposure to sunlight and fresh air.[8]

Calendula salve is widely considered the best herbal treatment for skin rashes. 

An article with brief rash descriptions and symptoms accompanying clinically significant rashes will follow. 

Links to related posts:

The Medicinal Uses of Calendula 

Two DIY Tests for Food Allergies 

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[1] Ship’s Medicine Chest and Medical Aid at Sea, 1978, 233.

[2] Ship’s Medicine Chest and Medical Aid at Sea, 1978, 233.

[3] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 145.

[4] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 146.

[5] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 146.

[6] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 145.

[7] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 145.

[8] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 145.

Contaminated Meat and UTIs

I’ve never been afflicted with a urinary tract infection (UTI), nor has anyone in my immediate family.  I don’t know whether they afflict any of our relatives.  It’s not a topic of conversation when we gather.  I do have a good friend who got them all the time until she started using oregano essential oil.  As has been covered in another post, women are most commonly affected by them.  It’s usually a matter of their plumbing—genetics—so there’s not much they can do to change that. 

A study published last week focused on UTIs in Southern California and their possible relationship to contaminated meat sold in local stores. 

Escherichia coli, E. coli, is the bacteria most commonly implicated in UTIs.  What this study found is that in nearly 20% of UTI cases, the bacteria causing the UTI is the exact same strain found in the meat being sold in the local grocery stores!  So even though a UTI is not a form of food poisoning, in a roundabout way, it kind of is.  Bizarre, right?  Because it is coming from the meat!

The raw meat most often at fault is turkey, followed by chicken and pork, and then beef.  While women continue to be afflicted to a much greater degree than men (due to differences between the sexes in their plumbing), it was also shown that people in lower income groups are disproportionately affected.  They have a 60% higher risk of developing a UTI.  Is it because they are less educated in proper hygiene?  Or is it because stores in their neighborhoods are not as clean?  Is it due to improper handling procedures?  Or is it a combination of factors?  Would stricter procedures and surveillance reduce the risk of transmission?[1]

Researchers note that over 50% of E. coli sepsis cases begin as a simple UTI.[2]  They advise that immunocompromised individuals, older adults, and those with chronic conditions should be even more careful when handling raw meat, even if it is frozen.  Preventive measures include the usual—proper handwashing, avoiding cross-contamination, and thoroughly cooking the meat. 

So what can we do to reduce our risk for contracting a UTI?  Raising our own meat in clean conditions and processing it at home is one way to reduce the risk.  Those who are already at risk should perhaps be excused from handling the raw meat.  In addition, the meat must be thoroughly cooked, and of course, strict hygiene measures should be observed.  As turkey and chicken are the most commonly contaminated meats, perhaps consider avoiding those meats at church socials or neighborhood dinners.  While our friends would never deliberately undercook their meat, the duties of planning an event may distract them and prevent them from overseeing this critical job well.  We’ve encountered undercooked chicken at a couple of dinners with friends, and it’s always uncomfortable to leave food on the plate.  Most people go ahead and eat obviously undercooked meat to avoid offending a friend.  I know I did that when I was younger. 

And finally, if you’re like me and always overcooking the meat (much to the sorrow of your spouse), just share that you’re concerned about UTIs and food poisoning.  Offer to let them take over the cooking if they are concerned. 

References: 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/urinary-tract-infections-contaminated-meat-study/  (Plain English article on the topic.)

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[1] https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mbio.01428-25

[2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28190700/

Armageddon Pharmacy Herb Identification Photographs and a Question to Ascertain Interest

You might have noticed new buttons in the ribbon above.  Over the past 18 months, I've had people comment that they would like photographs to help them identify herbs in the wild.  Even if the wild is only in the backyard.  Sometimes we just don't know what we're looking at.  

In case you hadn't noticed, I am something of a Luddite in a tech-obsessed world.  I figured people would simply use the free Picture This! app to identify plants.  Maybe I'm not the only Luddite on the plant.

Someone suggested that the photos could be posted on the blog.  It's still a work in progress.  I wanted to put them all in a single file, but that took forever to load.  So I divided the photos into four groups, organized alphabetically by their common names.  On the plus side, I can include multiple photos for those that may be more difficult to identify from a single image.  Sadly, I have not yet figured out how to crop out all the white space. 

 

Secondly, KOTPE (King of the Picky Eaters) is a metallurgical engineer by trade.  Last night, he suggested that he'd be interested in writing a guest post for this blog, perhaps once a month, on an engineering/metallurgy/EMP type topic, if you readers would be interested.  And if you readers ask the question or suggest a specific topic to be addressed.  And then I had to agree to polish it and make it fit for publication.  Let us know in the comments or by email.

Prepping for Pancreatitis

Precious little information on this rare and potentially life-threatening condition is found in off-grid medicine texts.  Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition contains about a hundred words on it; other sources are silent.  The incidence of acute pancreatitis increased 10-fold between 1960 and 1980.[1]  Presumably, this is due to dietary changes in Americans, and a return to healthier eating may reduce the cases of pancreatitis.  In the meantime, we should be prepared to recognize the symptoms and treatment options.  After all, over 220,000 Americans are hospitalized for acute pancreatitis each year.[2]

This inflammation of the pancreas has numerous root causes.  The I GET SMASHED mnemonic covers these causes[3]:

I—Idiopathic (unknown)

G—Gallstones, genetic (cystic fibrosis)

E—Ethanol (alcohol, heavy use)

T—Trauma (injury)

S—Steroids

M—Mumps (and other infections), malignancy

A—Autoimmune

S—Scorpion stings/spider bites

H—Hyperlipidemia/hypercalcemia/hyperparathyroidism (metabolic disorders)

E—ERCP (endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography, a diagnostic procedure that may cause pancreatitis)

D—Drugs (tetracyclines, furosemide, azathioprine, thiazides, and many others)

 

The first four letters of the mnemonic represent the most common causes of pancreatitis.[4]

Gallstones blocking the ducts that drain from the pancreas and heavy alcohol use account for 90% of all cases. 

SYMPTOMS

• Acute pancreatitis
• Pain in upper abdomen, sometimes spreading to the back, in 50-90% of patients[5]
• Pain may be mild or severe
• Pain may last for several days
• Fever
• Nausea and vomiting
• Rapid pulse
• Swollen or tender abdomen
• Patients with acute pancreatitis usually look and feel seriously ill.[6]
• Chronic pancreatitis
• Pain in the upper abdomen or upper left quadrant, spreading to the back, though some chronic pancreatitis patients have no pain
• Pain may become constant and severe
• Pain becomes worse after eating
• Pain may dissipate as condition worsens
• Pain is worse when lying on the back; lessens when sitting or in a fetal position[7]
• Diarrhea
• Nausea and vomiting (occurs in 75-90% of patients[8])
• Greasy, foul-smelling stools
• Weight loss 
• Patients with chronic pancreatitis may not have symptoms until complications develop.[9]

RISK FACTORS

• African-American (higher risk than Caucasian and Asian Americans)
• Age 30-40 years, especially due to alcohol use
• Family history of high triglycerides
• Gallstones, more common in older adults (women over the age of 60 are at greatest risk)[10]
• Heavy alcohol use, especially after bingeing, but usually after 4-7 years of alcohol use[11]
• High fat diet
• Infections 
• Bacteria[12
• Legionella
• Leptospira 
• Mycoplasma
• Salmonella 
• Fungi[13] 
• Aspergillus 
• Parasites[14] 
• Ascaris
• Cryptosporidium
• Toxoplasma
• Viruses[15] 
• Coxsackie
• Cytomegalovirus
• Hepatitis B
• Herpes simplex
• HIV
• Mumps
• Varicella-zoster
• Male
• Medications
• Statins
• ACE inhibitors
• Oral contraceptives/hormone replacement therapy
• Diuretics
• Oral hypoglycemic agents, including metformin
• Valproic acid
• Antiretroviral therapy
• Antipsychotics, including clozapine, risperidone, olanzapine
• Smoking
• Type-2 diabetes

DIAGNOSIS

It is important to understand that even with all the advantages of modern medicine, pancreatitis has a high misdiagnosis rate, up to 43%.[16]  It will be much more difficult to diagnose is a collapsed society without technology to aid the physician.  Diagnosis will be limited to best guess based on the symptoms listed above. 

TREATMENT

Treatment is supportive and depends on whether the pancreatitis is acute or chronic and mild or severe.  Complete rest for the patient and his gut means complete bed rest and nothing by mouth.  No food and all fluids and pain relief must be administered intravenously or rectally. [17] Be aware that the mortality rate for severe acute pancreatitis is 2-9%.[18] In cases of mild pancreatitis, no oral intake of food or water is recommended until after nausea and vomiting subside. [19]

There are no currently proven medical therapies for acute pancreatitis. [20]  About 15% of those who have had an attack of acute pancreatitis will experience a repeat.[21]

The diet may need to be adjusted to prevent future attacks, especially in the case of chronic pancreatitis.  Basically, caffeine should be limited.  No alcohol.  A low fat, low calorie, and low sugar diet combined with high fiber and small, frequent meals will yield the best results.

There are several herbal formulas used in traditional Chinese medicine.  Unfortunately, most of the ingredients are totally unfamiliar here in the western hemisphere.  A link to the article discussing these decoctions is provided below.

Dachengqi decoction includes Rheum (rhubarb), immature bitter orange, natni sulfas natura, Magnolia officinalis bark.

Qingyi decoction includes rheum, Chinese thorowax root, white peony root, Baikal skullcap root, Coptis chinenesis, and other herbs.

Yinchenchengyi decocotion includes Artemisia scoparia, Gardenia jasminoides, Magnolia officinalis bark, immature bitter orange, rheum, natni sulfas natura,

Huoxuequingyi decoction combines qingyi decoction (above) and Salvia miltiorrhiza. 

Rheum, Salvia miltiorrhiza, and natrii sulfas have also been used alone. 

Extensive searching online for alternative treatments revealed little.  Popular websites suggested using baking soda, dandelion, curcumin, garlic, licorice, milk thistle, activated charcoal, yogurt (with live cultures), beet juice, spinach, soy, and olive oil.  I searched the National Library of Medicine online for any studies using these substances and came up empty.  I believe there are herbs that could be used successfully, but the studies just haven’t been done.  I suspect the above named substances, in conjunction with dietary changes, may be helpful in preventing further attacks. 

References:

Li J, Zhang S, Zhou R, Zhang J, Li ZF. Perspectives of traditional Chinese medicine in pancreas protection for acute pancreatitis. World J Gastroenterol. 2017;23(20):3615-3623. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5449418/ (accessed 29 March 2022).

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[1] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[2] AP Shah, et al., Acute pancreatitis: current perspectives on diagnosis and management, Journal of Inflammation Research, Vol 11, https://www.dovepress.com/acute-pancreatitis-current-perspectives-on-diagnosis-and-management-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-JIR (accessed 29 March 2022).

[3] Jeremy Jones, Causes of Pancreatitis Mnemonic, Radiopaedia, https://radiopaedia.org/articles/causes-of-pancreatitis-mnemonic (accessed 29 March 2022).

[4] Jeremy Jones, Causes of Pancreatitis Mnemonic, Radiopaedia, https://radiopaedia.org/articles/causes-of-pancreatitis-mnemonic (accessed 29 March 2022).

[5] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[6] Symptoms and causes of pancreatitis, https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/pancreatitis/symptoms-causes (accessed 29 March 2022).

[7] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[8] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[9] Symptoms and causes of pancreatitis, https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/pancreatitis/symptoms-causes (accessed 29 March 2022).

[10] AP Shah, et al., Acute pancreatitis: current perspectives on diagnosis and management, Journal of Inflammation Research, Vol 11, https://www.dovepress.com/acute-pancreatitis-current-perspectives-on-diagnosis-and-management-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-JIR (accessed 29 March 2022).

[11] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[12] M. Economou, et al., Infectious cases of acute pancreatitis, Annals of Gastroenterology, Vol 13 No 2, 2000, http://www.annalsgastro.gr/files/journals/1/articlessos/4/submission/editor/4-16-1-ED.pdf (accessed 29 March 2022).

[13] M. Economou, et al., Infectious cases of acute pancreatitis, Annals of Gastroenterology, Vol 13 No 2, 2000, http://www.annalsgastro.gr/files/journals/1/articlessos/4/submission/editor/4-16-1-ED.pdf (accessed 29 March 2022).

[14] M. Economou, et al., Infectious cases of acute pancreatitis, Annals of Gastroenterology, Vol 13 No 2, 2000, http://www.annalsgastro.gr/files/journals/1/articlessos/4/submission/editor/4-16-1-ED.pdf (accessed 29 March 2022).

[15] M. Economou, et al., Infectious cases of acute pancreatitis, Annals of Gastroenterology, Vol 13 No 2, 2000, http://www.annalsgastro.gr/files/journals/1/articlessos/4/submission/editor/4-16-1-ED.pdf (accessed 29 March 2022).

[16] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[17] Survival and Austere Medicine, 3^rd Edition, 2017, 168.

[18] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[19] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[20] Abilio Munoz, et al., Diagnosis and management of acute pancreatitis, American Family Physician, Vol 62 No 1, 1 July 2000, https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0701/p164.html (accessed 29 March 2022).

[21] Shereen Lehman, What to eat if you have pancreatitis, Very Well Health, 28 December 2021, https://www.verywellhealth.com/diet-and-chronic-pancreatitis-2507165 (accessed 29 March 2022).